Vivasurf.com vs Vivasurf.us

Once upon a time there was this site called vivasurf.COM... It had one
of the best paying reps Ive ever seen. Then this PP called stormpay did
a big no no to the whole industry. First it said "If autosurf companies
want to use us they have to be exclusive and ONLY accept stormpay".
Administrator of the site Robert Kempster saw the amount of money members
placed in from Stormpay and it was more than that placed in by any
other payment processor. So he opened vivasurf.US. New rules, the rest of
the PPs accepted on it. Things went well for a while, some members of
viva.com asked if they could be transferred to viva.us. Admin robert had
no problem with that since he just switched the money among PPs.
Then disaster came. One day stormpay froze all the accounts of autosurf
sites including vivasurf.COM. All the money on viva.com WAS from
stormpay in the past months. So this is what robert did. He viewed the
balance of the site and determined that if upgrades kept coming in as usual
but from other payment processors viva.com would be able to endure the
loss from stormpay if the members matched their october and november
2005 SP upgrades. So they did, BUT money stopped coming in. One after the
other site after site started dying. And there was a pre-SP period and
a post-SP period. The only two survivors of the pre-SP period being
vivasurf and dadndaves. People started getting a phobia for any site that
was around too long and as a result money stopped coming in. The plan
robert had for enduring the SP losses was in great way dependant on
members still promoting the site and new members joining. Not because it
was a ponzi but because in the whole matching the SP upgrades its the
site that lost money. Eventually the money issues reached viva.us too. The
viva sites lost credibility slowly but surely and less and less money
started coming in and money from compoundings continued to make pendings
bigger and bigger. Not to mention uniclear went down somewhere in the
middle taking once again a batch of admins money. Also remember if I
place in 10$ of SP money and then 10$ of e-gold to match it I have 20$
worth of upgrades running but I ONLY PLACED IN 10$ and thats what most
members of viva.com fail to see... Its like admin said "whatever you put
in ill double"... they go "but I matched my SP upgrades" yeah but you
earnt from them too...
Finally one day robert made an asessment of the situation and
determined while he was trying to get viva.com back on track viva.us kept
sinking lower and lower so he decided to get viva.us up FIRST and get it
STRONG so it could then help him to FROM HIS MONEY AS ADMIN get viva.com
back on track.
Viva.com and viva.us have two sepparate e-gold accounts to ensure one
doesnt get in the way of the other.
Now dont get me wrong, before the whole SP problem viva.com paid on
time every time pendings of 10K 15K and 5K as I saw some members postings
when I first joined in september 2005 and viva.us is like that now BUT
admins more experienced. He has learnt from his mistakes and takes
preventive meassures to ensure history doesnt repeat itself in both sites.
So as you can see its not that admin opened viva.com, it went sour and
opened viva.us (as I have seen other admins do more than once). Admin
opened viva.us when viva.com was doing GREAT. Its just that viva.com has
3400 upgraded members with pendings of up to 17K (I do know of a member
that has a pending for 17K). Viva.us has roughly 400 upgraded members
so its much easier to clear old pendings. In fact all pendings have been
cleared and admins working its way back and its now on july 19th to
june pendings and also paying current pendings within 48hrs of expiry as
per the terms.
So what can YOU as a viva.COM member do? I do realize some people
already have placed all their money on viva.com and to them my appreciation
and gratitude. But some members of viva.com don’t join viva.us even
having the money because they are scared it will follow the same path
viva.com did. Let me clarify this. IT WILL NOT. How can I be so sure of
this? Well for starters there was only one stormpay right? Most of us
use e-gold this days and only a few use alertpay.
So to those viva.com members out there still hesitant to join let me
ask you this. If this was any other site would you have joined? 14% for
ten days. Min upgrade 1$, maximum 30000$. Payout 48hrs (usually sooner)
of expiry. No payout minimum. No 50/50 rule. No upgrade required to get
paid. You can upgrade 5$ everyday for ten days and the next 10 days get
paid 7$ each day cause the script was modified to allow multiple
upgrades. No ad-package purchase. NO NOTHING. You upgrade, surf, get paid and
while you watch your cash balance grow in viva.US you are indirectly
helping viva.COM catch up which will take long but it will. I remember
members of viva.us going “where never getting paid, youre always
telling us to be patient” well guess what? Most of them HAVE been paid and
just a few pendings remain. And it will be the same with viva.com but
it will just take longer.
So if you have 5$ in e-gold or alertpay join. Test it out. You don’t
have to upgrade again later YOU CAN GET PAID AS FREE MEMBER after your
upgrades have expired.

Im appealing to your objectivity here. Youll see that even if youre not
getting paid at the moment on viva.com getting paid on viva.us makes
the waiting a hell of a lot easier cause it’s the same admin.

Try it out. I recommend it to you.
Best wishes. Yeap its me.
Cafo